YAMSQ – Yet another Mame setup question

[daubsi]

Hello,

I’m pretty new to Retropie and its various MAME editions like mame4all, lr-fba-next, advmame, etc. and its tools for ROM management like clrmamepro.

I’ve got some roms in the 0.164 format, which is – as far as I understood – far newer than anything that is available in the above mentioned emulators. So I googled a little bit how to use clrmamepro and also read the “Managing ROMs” section in this blog here.

For example:
Load DAT file for advmame12 into clrmamepro. Set ROM path to the folder I store the advmame12 roms (empty at first). Choose “Rebuild”, set “original rom path” to my folder where the 0.164 ROMs are. Start rebuild. The advmame folder will then contain a lot of rebuild ZIP files, where e.g. the file names were changed etc.

However, this ROMs still dont work in advmame12 and I get errors like “Missing ROM xzy”.. Why is this happening? I thought that was exactly what clrmamepro should fix? ALso tried the DAT file for lr-fba-next, rebuild, but also in lr-fba-next it didn’t work. After selecting the game I was just returned to the Emulation Station frontend without any error shown.

Which MAME emulator can I use to run ROMs with CHD files? For example I’d love to play “GTI Club” but none of the emulators I tried so far worked…

[efraimsangil]

Check this Topic: https://www.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/mame-rom-compatibility-lists/

[daubsi]

I did! Most of the ROMS are “Untested” and even some that are listed as “Don’t work”, work for me.

Am I using clrmamepro the right way (as described above)? Am I misinterpreting it’s usage? If a game is listed as “working in advmame1.2 or fba” it should work at latest after “rebuilding” using clrmamepro – right?

[Floob]

If you have a 100% verified group of romsets for a given mame version, the vast majority will work without issue. However, there are still some minor quirks with some games, hence the compatibility list here:
https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Managing-ROMs

Do note that rebuilding an older set from, say, 0.164 is unlikely to reproduce the old set 100% for various reasons (e.g. the newer set may have removed roms that are now deemed inaccurate), so you may want to google rollback roms to understand how to get fillers.

[dankcushions]

your process seems right to me! clrmamempro should only output complete .zip files in the output folder, but there’s a simple(ish) way to double check have the correct files:

– open a rom .zip that doesn’t work (gives you the ‘missing …’ messages)
– open the dat file you are using (ie https://raw.githubusercontent.com/HerbFargus/retropie-dat/master/advmame1.2/advmame12-106.dat )

find the game, and check to see if you have every <rom = … > file in your zip:

	<game name="puckmana" sourcefile="pacman.c" cloneof="puckman" romof="puckman">
		<description>PuckMan (Japan set 2)</description>
		<year>1980</year>
		<manufacturer>Namco</manufacturer>
		<rom name="pacman.6e" size="4096" crc="c1e6ab10" sha1="e87e059c5be45753f7e9f33dff851f16d6751181" region="cpu1" offset="0"/>
		<rom name="pacman.6f" size="4096" crc="1a6fb2d4" sha1="674d3a7f00d8be5e38b1fdc208ebef5a92d38329" region="cpu1" offset="1000"/>
		<rom name="pacman.6h" size="4096" crc="bcdd1beb" sha1="8e47e8c2c4d6117d174cdac150392042d3e0a881" region="cpu1" offset="2000"/>
		<rom name="prg7" size="2048" crc="b6289b26" sha1="d249fa9cdde774d5fee7258147cd25fa3f4dc2b3" region="cpu1" offset="3000"/>
		<rom name="prg8" size="2048" crc="17a88c13" sha1="eb462de79f49b7aa8adb0cc6d31535b10550c0ce" region="cpu1" offset="3800"/>
		<rom name="chg1" size="2048" crc="2066a0b7" sha1="6d4ccc27d6be185589e08aa9f18702b679e49a4a" region="gfx1" dispose="yes" offset="0"/>
		<rom name="chg2" size="2048" crc="3591b89d" sha1="79bb456be6c39c1ccd7d077fbe181523131fb300" region="gfx1" dispose="yes" offset="800"/>
		<rom name="pacman.5f" merge="pacman.5f" size="4096" crc="958fedf9" sha1="4a937ac02216ea8c96477d4a15522070507fb599" region="gfx1" dispose="yes" offset="1000"/>
		<rom name="82s123.7f" merge="82s123.7f" size="32" crc="2fc650bd" sha1="8d0268dee78e47c712202b0ec4f1f51109b1f2a5" region="proms" offset="0"/>
		<rom name="82s126.4a" merge="82s126.4a" size="256" crc="3eb3a8e4" sha1="19097b5f60d1030f8b82d9f1d3a241f93e5c75d6" region="proms" offset="20"/>
		<rom name="82s126.1m" merge="82s126.1m" size="256" crc="a9cc86bf" sha1="bbcec0570aeceb582ff8238a4bc8546a23430081" region="sound1" offset="0"/>
		<rom name="82s126.3m" merge="82s126.3m" size="256" crc="77245b66" sha1="0c4d0bee858b97632411c440bea6948a74759746" region="sound1" offset="100"/>
....	</game>

so for ‘puckman’ i would expect the puckman.zip to have 12 files in it.

personally, i don’t use advancedmame – it supports a lot, but the performance is relatively bad, no? i suggest you should switch to lr-mame2003, before you spend loads of effort getting this working!

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