i’ve done some excel experiments – here’s a list of the games that ARE in FBAnext but are NOT in mame2003 (parent roms ONLY):

1945k III
4 player input test [Demo, 4 player input test cartridge]
7 Ordi (Korea)
A.B. Cop (World, FD1094 317-0169b)
A.D. 2083 [Incomplete Sound]
Agress
Air Assault (World)
Air Attack (set 1)
Alien Challenge (World) [Imperfect sound]
Alien Invaders [preliminary sound]
Alien Sector
Arcadia (NMK)
Asura Buster - Eternal Warriors (Japan) [Imperfect SND, freezes on first boss]
Back Fire (Tecmo, bootleg)
Backfire! (set 1)
Bang Bang Busters (2010 NCI release) [Prototype]
Battle Garegga (Europe / USA / Japan / Asia) (Sat Feb 3 1996)
Bee Storm - DoDonPachi II (V102, World)
Best Of Best
Bestri (Korea)
Bikkuri Card (Japan)
Birdiy
Bomb Kick (set 1)
Bongo
Boogie Wings (Euro v1.5, 92.12.07)
Buccaneers (set 1)
Bullet (FD1094 317-0041)
Bygone [Imperfect sound]
Cannon Ball (Pacman Hardware) [wrong colors]
Catacomb [Bad Colours]
Chain Reaction (World, Version 2.2, 1995.09.25)
Chance Kun (Japan)
Chaos (PGM Demo) [Demo, Demo Game]
Chaos Demo (CPS-1) [Demo]
Chaos Demo (Neo Geo) [Demo]
Charlie Ninja
Chip n Dale (Intro demo) [Demo, You must use the Universe BIOS and set region to Japan AES]
Choko (010820 Japan)
Choky! Choky!
Choplifter (8751 315-5151)
Choutetsu Brikin'ger - Iron clad (Prototype) [Prototype]
Codename - Blut Engel (2006-01-19) [Homebrew]
Columns (Neo Geo) [Homebrew]
Combat Hawk
Come Back Toto
Cookie & Bibi (set 1)
Cookie & Bibi 3
Crazy Fight
Crouching Poney Hidden Dragon (DEMO) [Homebrew]
Crusher Makochan (Japan)
Cyber Tank (v1.4)
Dambusters (US, set 1)
DarkWing Duck (Intro demo) [Demo, You must use the Universe BIOS and set region to Japan AES]
Date Quiz Go Go (Korea)
Deer Hunting USA V4.3
Demon Front (V105)
Desert Breaker (World, FD1094 317-0196)
Diet Go Go (Euro v1.1 1992.09.26)
Digger Man [Homebrew]
DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou (V101, Japan)
Dolmen
Double Point
Dr. Tomy
Dragon Bowl
Dragon World 2001 (V100, Japan) [Bad sound?]
Dragon World II (V110X, World)
Dragon World Pretty Chance (V101, Japan) [Bad sound?]
Duck Tales (Intro demo) [Demo, You must use the Universe BIOS and set region to Japan AES]
Dynamite Dux (set 2, FD1094 317-0096)
Dynasty Wars (US set 1)
Egg Hunt
Espgaluda (V100, Japan)
Excelsior (set 1)
Explosive Breaker
Fantastic (Galaga conversion on Galaxian hardware)
Fantasy Zone II - The Tears of Opa-Opa (System 16C)
Fever SOS (International, ver. 98/09/25)
Fighting Basketball
Final Tetris
Flying Tiger (set 1)
Frog Feast (CPS-1) [Homebrew]
Frog Feast (Neo Geo) [Homebrew]
Frog Feast (PGM) [Homebrew]
G-LOC Air Battle (US)
Galaga Demo (set 1) [Homebrew]
Galaxy Force 2
Gals Panic S3 (Japan)
Ganbare! Marine Kun (Marine 2K0411 JPN)
Garogun Seroyang (Korea)
Ghost Busters (Intro demo) [Demo, You must use the Universe BIOS and set region to Japan AES]
Ghostlop (prototype) [Prototype]
Gouketsuji Gaiden Legends (USA, ver. 95/06/20)
GP Rider (World, FD1094 317-0163)
Grasspin
Guardian
Gunbarich
Hammer Away (prototype) [Prototype]
Happy 6-in-1 (V102 - V101MK, China)
Heuk Sun Baek Sa (Korea)
Honey Dolls
Hot Mind (Hard Times hardware)
Hyper Crash (version D)
Hyper Street Fighter II: The Anniversary Edition (040202 USA)
Idol Mahjong - final romance 2 (Neo CD Conversion) [Hack]
Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire
Jockey Grand Prix (set 1)
Joe & Mac Returns (World, Version 1.1, 1994.05.27)
Joinem
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future / JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Mirai e no Isan (Japan 990927)
JoJo's Venture / JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken (USA 990128)
Jonas Indiana and the Lost Temple of RA (20050717) [Homebrew]
Jumping Pop (Nics, Korean bootleg of Plump Pop) [Imperfect graphics]
Jumping Pop (set 1)
Jyangokushi -Haoh no Saihai- (990527 Japan)
Kero Kero Keroppi's Let's Play Together (USA, Version 2.0)
Ketsui Kizuna Jigoku Tachi (Revision 2?, Japan)
Knights of Valour 2 (V107, 102, 100, Hong Kong)
Knights of Valour 2 Plus - Nine Dragons (VM205XX, China)
Knights of Valour Super Heroes Plus / Sangoku Senki Super Heroes Plus (ver. 101) [Imperfect Protection Emulation]
Knights of Valour: Yi Tong Zhong Yuan / Sangoku Senki: Yi Tong Zhong Yuan (ver. 201, China) [Imperfect Protection Emulation]
Knuckle Bash 2 (bootleg)
Konami Test Board (GX800, Japan)
Kong (Donkey Kong conversion on Galaxian hardware) [Bad Colours]
Koro Koro Quest (Japan)
Kozure Ookami (Japan) [Imperfect Graphics]
Lady Master of Kung Fu
Last Hope CD Beta (Neo CD conversion) [Hack, Imperfect graphics]
Last Survivor (FD1094 317-0083)
Lethal Enforcers (ver UAE, 11/19/92 15:04)
Live Quiz Show
Lord of Gun (USA) [Imperfect graphics and sound]
Lover Boy
Lucky Today [Bad colours]
Mahjong G-Taste
Mahjong Hot Gimmick Integral (Japan)
Mang-Chi
Martial Masters (V104, 102, 102, USA)
Match It II
Matrimelee / Shin Gouketsuji Ichizoku Toukon (NGM-2660) (NGH-2660)
Mega Blast (World)
Meijinsen
Metal Saver
Metal Slug 4 (NGM-2630)
Metal Slug 5 (JAMMA PCB)
Metal Slug 5 (NGM-2680)
Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (set 3, World, FD1094/8751 317-0159)
Mighty Warriors
Mighty! Pang (001010 Euro)
Miss Bingo
Miss Puzzle
Monster Maulers (ver EAA)
Monsters World (bootleg of Super Pang)
More More
MTV Rock-N-Roll Trivia (Part 2)
MuHanSeungBu (SemiCom Baseball) (Korea)
Multi 5 / New Multi Game 5 (set 1)
Multi Champ Deluxe (ver. 0106, 06/01/2000)
Nandemo Seal Iinkai
Neo 2500 Demo [Demo]
Neo CastleVania Demo [Homebrew]
Neo Geo CDZ system [System - media selected seperately]
Neo No Panepon (beta) [Homebrew]
Neo Pong (ver 1.1) [Homebrew]
Neo System Check (ver 1.0b) [Demo]
Neo Thunder [Homebrew, sebastianmihai.com]
NeoGeo 2-Player Tetris [Homebrew]
NeoGeo 3D! Demo [Homebrew]
NGEM2K (beta 2006-01-18) [Homebrew]
NGF Transparency Demo [Homebrew, redarmor.net]
Ninja Kazan (World)
Noboranka (Japan)
Orbs (10/7/94 prototype?)
Oriental Legend Special Plus / Xi You Shi E Zhuan Super Plus (ver. 205) [Incomplete Dump]
Oriental Legend Super (V101, Korea) [Imperfect Protection Emulation]
Osman (World)
P-GeMeni (060123) [Homebrew]
Pairs Love
Pang Pang
Paparazzi
Party Time: Gonta the Diver II / Ganbare! Gonta!! 2 (World Release)
Planet Probe (prototype?)
Pochi and Nyaa
Pocket Gal Deluxe (Euro v3.00)
Pocket Gals V.I.P (set 1)
Poker Night [Homebrew]
Pop Bingo
Pop's Pop's
Power Drift (World, Rev A)
Primo Demo [Homebrew]
Progear (010117 USA)
Puzz Loop 2 (010302 Euro)
Puzzle Break
Puzzle Club (Yun Sung, set 1)
Puzzle Star (V100MG) [Incomplete dump]
Puzzli 2 (V100) [Incomplete dump]
PuzzLove
Quiz Olympic
Quiz Tonosama no Yabou 2 Zenkoku-ban (tonosama 2 950123 Japan)
Racing Beat (World)
Racing Hero (FD1094 317-0144)
Rack + Roll
Rage of the Dragons (NGM-264?)
Raiden DX (UK) [Coin inputs require holding down]
Rail Chase (World)
Rainbow Islands (new version)
Red Earth / War-Zard (Euro 961121)
Riot
Robocop (Intro demo) [Demo, You must use the Universe BIOS and set region to Japan AES]
Rock Duck (prototype?) [incorrect colors]
Rock'n 3 (Japan)
Rock'n 4 (Japan, prototype)
Rock'n Tread 2 (Japan)
S.V.G. - Spectral vs Generation (V200, China)
Samurai Shodown V / Samurai Spirits Zero (NGM-2700)
Samurai Shodown V Special / Samurai Spirits Zero Special (NGM-2720)
Saturn
Schmeiser Robo (Japan)
Scooter Shooter
Scorpion (set 1) [Incomplete Sound]
SD Fighters (Korea)
Search Eye (English / Korean / Japanese / Italian)
Search Eye Plus V2.0
Sengoku 3 / Sengoku Densho 2001
Shadow of the Beast (Neo Geo demo) [Demo]
Shinobi / FZ-2006 (Korean System 16 bootleg) (ISG Selection Master Type 2006)
Silver Millennium
Snapper (Korea)
SNK vs. Capcom - SVC Chaos (JAMMA PCB, set 1)
SNK vs. Capcom - SVC Chaos (NGM-2690)(NGH-2690)
Snow Brothers 3 - Magical Adventure [Bootleg]
Soldam
Sonic Boom (FD1094 317-0053)
Space Bomber (ver. B)
Space Raider
Spectrum 2000 (vertical)
Spiderman (Intro demo) [Demo, You must use the Universe BIOS and set region to Japan AES]
Squash (Ver. 1.0)
Street Fighter (US set 1)
Street Fighter II' - Hyper Fighting (street fighter 2' T 921209 ETC)
Street Fighter III 2nd Impact: Giant Attack (USA 970930)
Street Fighter III 3rd Strike: Fight for the Future (Euro 990608)
Street Fighter III: New Generation (Euro 970204)
Street Fighter Zero (CPS Changer, 951020 Japan)
Street Fighter Zero 2 Alpha (960826 Asia)
Strike Fighter (World)
Success Joe (World) [Incomplete sound]
Sukeban Jansi Ryuko (set 2, System 16B, FD1089B 317-5021)
SunA Quiz 6000 Academy (940620-6)
Super Bishi Bashi Championship (ver JAA, 2 Players) [Imperfect gfx (bad priorities)]
Super Model
Super Monaco GP (World, Rev B, FD1094 317-0126a)
Super Trio
Super Triv [No sound]
Surprise Attack (World ver. K)
SWAT Police
Taisen Hot Gimmick 4 Ever (Japan)
Tang Tang (ver. 0526, 26/05/2000)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Intro demo) [Demo, You must use the Universe BIOS and set region to Japan AES]
Tenchi wo Kurau II - Sekiheki no Tatakai (CPS Changer, 921031 Japan)
Tetris (D.R. Korea) [Wrong colors]
Tetris / Bloxeed (Korean System 16 bootleg) (ISG Selection Master Type 2006)
Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2
The Gladiator - Road Of The Sword / Shen Jian (V101) [Incomplete Dump]
The Killing Blade (V109, China)
The Killing Blade Plus (V300)
The King of Fighters 2001 (NGM-262?)
The King of Fighters 2002 (NGM-2650)(NGH-2650)
The King of Fighters 2003 (Japan, JAMMA PCB)
The King of Fighters 2003 (NGM-2710)
The Lost Castle In Darkmist
Thunder Heroes
Thunder Hoop (Ver. 1)
Time Fighter (Time Pilot conversion on Galaxian hardware) [Bad Colours]
Time Scanner (set 2, System 16B)
Time's Up Demo [Homebrew]
Toppy & Rappy
Treasure of the Carribean [Prototype]
Triple Draw Poker [Bootleg]
Trophy Hunting - Bear & Moose V1.0
Turkey Hunting USA V1.0
Twin Action
Twin Adventure (World)
Twin Falcons
Twinkle
Uncle Poo
unknown Pac-Man gambling game
V-Liner (set 1)
Varia Metal [Imperfect graphics]
Wally wo Sagase! (rev B, Japan, FD1094 317-0197B)
Water Balls
Wiggie Waggie
Wild West C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa (ver EAB)
Wing Shooting Championship V2.00
Wonder League '96 (Korea)
Wonder League Star - Sok-Magicball Fighting (Korea)
Wonder Stick
Woodpecker (set 1)
WOW New Fantasia
WW2 Demo - Arcade Development Project [Homebrew]
Wyvern F-0
Zero Team USA (set 1, US, Fabtek license) [Coin inputs require holding down]
Zintrick / Oshidashi Zentrix (hack / bootleg) [Bootleg]
Zip & Zap [Imperfect GFXs, No Sound]
Zupapa!

(the same list for parents that ARE in mame2003 but not in FBAnext is over 1600, so i figure i want to just use FBAnext for its exclusive games)

of that list, I think it can be further narrowed to get rid of all the neo-geo, stuff that doesn’t work, and duff categories, so I’ll do that now and see if I can’t get a small list of the stuff that’s worth keeping in FBA.

i already split out my neogeo games (i’m using lr-fba as my neogeo emulator) – makes things a lot easier to navigate in ES for sure!

i think speed-wise, i’m not seeing a difference between fba-next and mame2003. fba-next runs CPS3 (and at that, only SFIII properly), but other than that, it’s got everything else capcom covered I think? CPS2 runs full speed on mame2003. are there any other capcom games that don’t, but do on FBA?

currently my list of games that I need to run on fba-next is:

Street Fighter (US set 1)
Street Fighter III 2nd Impact: Giant Attack (USA 970930)
Street Fighter III 3rd Strike: Fight for the Future (Euro 990608)
Street Fighter III: New Generation (Euro 970204)
DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou (V101, Japan)
Espgaluda (V100, Japan)
Progear (010117 USA)
Hyper Street Fighter II: The Anniversary Edition (040202 USA)
Battle Garegga (Europe / USA / Japan / Asia) (Sat Feb 3 1996)
Ketsui Kizuna Jigoku Tachi (Revision 2?, Japan)

the rest on the previous list either don’t interest me, or don’t run on FBA-next properly, so i’m pretty happy with my setup, finally :)

libretro-fba-next or fba-libretro support SFIII/CPS3, which is nice. plus a few later cave shooters that aren’t in the older FBA emus.

mame2003 is pretty good. i really think it’s about as good as we’re going to get with the pi. the things it doesn’t support (apart from my list above), are 3d era which isn’t really feasibly on the pi. i do wonder why 2d scaling games (after burner, etc), and later midway games (MK series) struggle so much, but beyond that i fear there isn’t much optimisation possible.

to compound that, it supports a load of early 3d games (tekken, ridge racer, etc) but because of the version of mame (0.78/2003), they’re in early stages of emulation so have no sound/corruption… BUT it’s no loss as the performance is terrible anyway. the pi 2 just isn’t up to anything beyond ..most.. 2d arcade games.

oh absolutely – mame 3D far exceeds the demands of console 3d emulation, which are more interested in the end result than being accurate at a low level.

the pi’s GPU is quite competent compared to the CPU, but I think all of mame is done in software (CPU), which is the main problem, but that’s just how mame is. n64 and dreamcast emulation make use of the GPU.